EUTHYPHRO

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EUTHYPHRO: To be sure, Socrates.
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SOCRATES: And what is piety, and what is impiety?
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EUTHYPHRO: Piety is doing as I am doing; that is to say, prosecuting any one who is guilty of murder, sacrilege, or of any similar crime—whether he be your father or mother, or whoever he may be—that makes no difference; and not to prosecute them is impiety. And please to consider, Socrates, what a notable proof I will give you of the truth of my words, a proof which I have already given to others:—of the principle, I mean, that the impious, whoever he may be, ought not to go unpunished. For do not men regard Zeus as the best and most righteous of the gods?—and yet they admit that he bound his father (Cronos) because he wickedly devoured his sons, and that he too had punished his own father (Uranus) for a similar reason, in a nameless manner. And yet when I proceed against my father, they are angry with me. So inconsistent are they in their way of talking when the gods are concerned, and when I am concerned.
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SOCRATES: May not this be the reason, Euthyphro, why I am charged with impiety—that I cannot away with these stories about the gods? and therefore I suppose that people think me wrong. But, as you who are well informed about them approve of them, I cannot do better than assent to your superior wisdom. What else can I say, confessing as I do, that I know nothing about them? Tell me, for the love of Zeus, whether you really believe that they are true.
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EUTHYPHRO: Yes, Socrates; and things more wonderful still, of which the world is in ignorance.
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SOCRATES: And do you really believe that the gods fought with one another, and had dire quarrels, battles, and the like, as the poets say, and as you may see represented in the works of great artists? The temples are full of them; and notably the robe of Athene, which is carried up to the Acropolis at the great Panathenaea, is embroidered with them. Are all these tales of the gods true, Euthyphro?
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EUTHYPHRO: Yes, Socrates; and, as I was saying, I can tell you, if you would like to hear them, many other things about the gods which would quite amaze you.
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SOCRATES: I dare say; and you shall tell me them at some other time when I have leisure. But just at present I would rather hear from you a more precise answer, which you have not as yet given, my friend, to the question, What is 'piety'? When asked, you only replied, Doing as you do, charging your father with murder.
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EUTHYPHRO: And what I said was true, Socrates.
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SOCRATES: No doubt, Euthyphro; but you would admit that there are many other pious acts?
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SOCRATES: Remember that I did not ask you to give me two or three examples of piety, but to explain the general idea which makes all pious things to be pious. Do you not recollect that there was one idea which made the impious impious, and the pious pious?
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SOCRATES: Tell me what is the nature of this idea, and then I shall have a standard to which I may look, and by which I may measure actions, whether yours or those of any one else, and then I shall be able to say that such and such an action is pious, such another impious.
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EUTHYPHRO: I will tell you, if you like.
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SOCRATES: I should very much like.
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EUTHYPHRO: Piety, then, is that which is dear to the gods, and impiety is that which is not dear to them.
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SOCRATES: Very good, Euthyphro; you have now given me the sort of answer which I wanted. But whether what you say is true or not I cannot as yet tell, although I make no doubt that you will prove the truth of your words.
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SOCRATES: Come, then, and let us examine what we are saying. That thing or person which is dear to the gods is pious, and that thing or person which is hateful to the gods is impious, these two being the extreme opposites of one another. Was not that said?
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SOCRATES: And well said?
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EUTHYPHRO: Yes, Socrates, I thought so; it was certainly said.
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SOCRATES: And further, Euthyphro, the gods were admitted to have enmities and hatreds and differences?
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EUTHYPHRO: Yes, that was also said.
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SOCRATES: And what sort of difference creates enmity and anger? Suppose for example that you and I, my good friend, differ about a number; do differences of this sort make us enemies and set us at variance with one another? Do we not go at once to arithmetic, and put an end to them by a sum?
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SOCRATES: Or suppose that we differ about magnitudes, do we not quickly end the differences by measuring?
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SOCRATES: And we end a controversy about heavy and light by resorting to a weighing machine?
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SOCRATES: But what differences are there which cannot be thus decided, and which therefore make us angry and set us at enmity with one another? I dare say the answer does not occur to you at the moment, and therefore I will suggest that these enmities arise when the matters of difference are the just and unjust, good and evil, honourable and dishonourable. Are not these the points about which men differ, and about which when we are unable satisfactorily to decide our differences, you and I and all of us quarrel, when we do quarrel? (Compare Alcib.)
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EUTHYPHRO: Yes, Socrates, the nature of the differences about which we quarrel is such as you describe.
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SOCRATES: And the quarrels of the gods, noble Euthyphro, when they occur, are of a like nature?
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EUTHYPHRO: Certainly they are.
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SOCRATES: They have differences of opinion, as you say, about good and evil, just and unjust, honourable and dishonourable: there would have been no quarrels among them, if there had been no such differences—would there now?
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EUTHYPHRO: You are quite right.
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SOCRATES: Does not every man love that which he deems noble and just and good, and hate the opposite of them?
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SOCRATES: But, as you say, people regard the same things, some as just and others as unjust,—about these they dispute; and so there arise wars and fightings among them.

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Euthyphro, Project Gutenberg eBook #1642

INTRODUCTION.